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World Trade Center
WORLD TRADE CENTER TOUR

Take a guided tour from a Certified Urban Planner, Land-Use Law Professor, and long term former member of Community Board #1 living near the World Trade Center since 1979.

Hear about the original Lower Manhattan Plan and Zoning for the first World Trade Center area, and well as first hand stories of what it was like to live there before, during and after 9/11.

Many spaces have now opened in 2016, such as the new elevated "High Line" style Liberty Park and the Oculus Path Station by Calatrava. See photos below:

World Trade Center new Oculus interior by Calatrava
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This Tour can be personalized in many different ways. Tours have been given to school groups, architects and planners, tourists, and several small group family members and friends of victims of 9/11 have asked for private Talk & Walks.


Tours cost $300 for a 1.5 hour experience.
This Tour also includes walks of the immediate area as part of the 1.5 hours.

A Full Day Experience (Battery Park to Brooklyn Bridge) is also available for $500 a day.

Limit per group: 1-25 people.



For more information or reservations:

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HISTORICAL LOOK

World Trade Center after 9/11

I took this photo in September 2001 showing "Ground Zero".

This photo was taken from the roof a building just south of the site.

Living south of Chambers Street for over 30 years, I was one of those who were displaced from my apartment for approximately one month, returning home in October.



Asbestos The next photo is of me when I had to go to Ground Zero about a week after 9/11 to inspect a building surrounding the WTC site for my job. We did not know what toxins were in the dust that covered everything in the immediate area, so we all had to wear protective coverings.




This Tour not only remembers the past buildings and plans, but shows how the current plan is being completed and integrated into the neighborhood; and what it was like living in the area for the past 30 years.


Antennae being delivered to Lower Manhattan to eventually to raised to the top of Tower #1
This shows the structure for the spire (Antennae) being delivered which will be placed on top of Tower #1 and should be completed in March-April 2013.


Rendering of the completed World Trade Center
This is the rendering of the completed World Trade Center. In 2013 we will be able to see the completed Tower #1 and #4, with the construction of Tower #3 and the Path Station rising from the ground. The current plan and former plans will be discussed as we walk around the perifery of the site.



World Trade Center - May 2013
This photo was taken in the Spring of 2013 as 1 World Trade Center completed the structure for the spire.



Rick Landman in front of WTC MuseumOn June 20, 2013 I was invited to view the WTC site. Here I am by the World Trade Center Museum.
Santiago Calatrava From inside the Santiago Calatrava Oculus facing eastward from the concourse level.
Santiago Calatrava below grade View of the below grade ribs that hold up the concourse level.
World Trade Center Museum View of the World Trade Center Museum's northern facade.
Columns Inside Museum These are the two columns that we kept from the first World Trade Center and are installed in the World Trade Center Museum.
Aerial ViewThis view was taken from the top of One World Trade Center looking down at my apartment house and the Woolworth Building.
One World Trade Center View taken from standing at the base of One World Trade Center while looking straight up.
Rick Landman in base of Museum Rick Landman standing in the base of the World Trade Center Museum with the slurry wall behind.
World Trade Center siteView of ground level of the World Trade Center site facing eastward.
Lobby view from 4 World Trade CenterThis is the view from the Lobby of 4 World Trade Center facing westward.


sky
On September 12, 2001 at 7 a.m. the sky was totally blue without a cloud in sight, except for the area over where the World Trade Centers once stood. This cloud is due to the dust from the destruction.
people
Around October the neighborhood became a "tourist attraction" with masses of people going down to the see "Ground Zero". These people are passing right in front of my apartment house near Chambers Street.
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My neighborhood became a "Gated Community" with barricades and police checking all ID's as you entered the area in September. Residents were permitted back to start cleaning up their apartments and other authorized personnel were given access.
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What most people didn't know was that the electricity was shut off for the entire neighborhood when 7 WTC fell. Con Edison there ran an entire new system of conduit above ground in orange wooden boxes. Most people just walked over them and never realized what they were.
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This is a close-up of the electrical power lines in the orange wooden boxes as seen from my window.
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We will discuss how this building shook so much on 9/11 that every one of the granite panels had to be removed and either replaced or returned to the facade. You can see that certain panels are not of the same color as the rest.
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This building protected the one to the south. It had minor damage because it has very few windows (some broke) on its northern facade.
Sculpture
We will be able to sit next to the sculpture that was already situated in the park and was covered with debris. I don't even know if the young people realize that the man sitting next to them is made of bronze.
Pedestrian level at Fire House The former Lower Manhattan Special District in the NYC Zoning Resolution created an elevated pedestrian path that theoretically connected the Borough of Manhattan Community College (BMCC)north of Chambers Street to the south of the World Trade Center. This building was part of that elevation and was meant to connect retail space on the floor above the fire house. The door is still there.
BMCC
We will discuss the elevated pedestrian walkways that connected the World Trade Center up to the Borough of Manhattan Community College north of Chambers Street.
Morgue
We will discuss the location of the temporary Morgue that was set up by the federal government.
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View from 7 World Trade Center of Lower Manhattan. Tours can include the area from the Battery up to the World Trade Center, or the Financial District up to Tribeca or the Brooklyn Bridge.
Depending on the size of the group, we can end the tour by sitting in Zuccotti Park or City Hall Park and just discuss the day of 9/11 one on one.
”BrooklynWe can end the Extended Tour at City Hall Park or the Brooklyn Bridge pedestrian entry way, if you want to see more of the immediate area. ”Woolworth”We pass the Woolworth Building, which was the tallest building in the world until the Chrysler Building surpassed it. It was known as the Cathedral of Commerce.
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Do you where this building is located? This is is the only place where I was able to find the word "German" on or in a building that was created in the 20th Century. While there are many buildings in the East Village (Kleine Deutschland) from the 19th Century with German inscriptions, I am still searching for anything German in Manhattan from after World War I.

The stained glass skylight (was originally built as a functioning skylight until the additional floor was added over the skylight in 1919) was created by Heineke and Bowen, the same people who made the ceiling tile. The elevator door covers are by Tiffany. The skylight contains the date 1879 which was when the Woolworth company began and 1913 when the building was completed. It also lists the major trading countries in the world at the time.
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Here you still see the words, "German Empire" (and the Eagle) on the periphery of the skylight with other countries such as France, United States, Russia, Great Britain, Argentina, Austria, Spain, Italy, Brazil, Japan and China.
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There is also a stereotypical gargoyle of a Jewish banker, something that would in years to come become a frequent topic of ridicule by Nazis such as Julius Streicher in his Sturmer Newspaper. I have not found a definitive story about who this gargoyle represents.
”J&R”The building that now contains the "J & R Music World" was once the tallest building in the world, and the top cupolas were used for tourists to see the views.
”NewOn the former Urban Renewal site near City Hall and Pace University, we will pass the New York by Frank Gehry luxury apartment house under construction. New York by GehryThis is the new public elementary school and luxury rental building called New York by Gehry. This is the finished southern exposure of the "New York by Gehry" apartment house. This facade does not wave like the other ones.”New
”Corbin”We pass the Corbin Building, which was the tallest building in the world when it was constructed. It is next to the Fulton Transportation Hub under construction. ”GW If time permits we can go and see where George Washington sat when he prayed in Church.
”Group Here is a group walking further downtown near the Stone Street Historic District as we discussed New Amsterdam. We can also walk further south to explore the Wall Street area or go to Battery Park City. The walks are individualized for your interests.


Chenderit School from the United Kingdom. 2015 Origin of Zoning & World Trade Center Tour
Chenderit School from the United Kingdom. 2015 Origin of Zoning & World Trade Center Tour

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A Dutch Family who wanted to see the World Trade Center area while exploring Dutch influences on our city. 2015

Private Group from Amsterdam
Private group from Amsterdam 2015


Rick ABOUT THE TOUR GUIDE

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APA Square Logo - NY colors     NY Metro Chapter, 2011 Autumn Walking Tours

Contact:

Richard Landman, AICP, Attorney Emeritus* 
APA NY Metro Chapter             http://www.nyplanning.org

infotrue@yahoo.com   OR
office@nyplanning.org 
212-233-7867 



LECTURE THEMES:
  • The Lower Manhattan Plan and planning in the Wagner and Lindsay years.
  • The Lower Manhattan Special District and provisions for the World Trade Center and separate pedestrian level. (Segments still remain.)
  • Transfer of Development Rights and creation of privately owned public spaces.
  • 9/11: Impact on surrounding buildings and creation of the Temporary Morgue. (First hand accounts).
  • Living in the area post 9/11. (First hand account.)
  • Deutches Bank Building story and Community Board #1 responses to the tragedy.
  • New World Trade Center Plan and process to get to this point.
  • Fulton Street Transit Hub.
  • 7 World Trade Center and difference in planning regulations.

    "World Trade Center Area Tour"  

    The New York Metro Chapter's autumn series of walking tours - five in total, conducted by Mr. Richard Landman, AICP, Attorney Emeritus - include lectures given as the participants walk through the various areas where the subject matter occurred. Instead of viewing photos or slides, participants are invited to take-in the entire scene to see all of the surrounding contextual aspects that influence the subject, with particular attention to the impacts on, and lessons for urban planning.

    Wold Trade Center Area Tour:  Contributing to this tour will be a resident who lives 1,000 feet from the WTC for over 30 years. The tour will discuss the previous Zoning Special District and life before 9/11 with firsthand accounts of the recovery effort from someone with a local planning perspective. Topics include the location of the temporary morgue, the remnants of the former elevated pedestrian level and what it was like cleaning up and rebuilding the neighborhood. 

    * Richard Landman is a New York City licensed tour guide with three masters degrees and a JD from New York Law School. Richard was the Director of Real Estate Development (in-house land use attorney), at New York University for almost 20 years and an adjunct professor of Land Use Law at NYU's Wagner School for seven years. Currently, he teaches a land use law class at New York Law School and gives walking tours on various topics. He also volunteers at Housing Court once per week and is a court appointed guardian ad litem for the elderly with housing issues. Richard was the chair of Community Board #1 - Manhattan's Landmark Committee, Tribeca Committee and Planning and Infrastructure Committee over the years. Earlier in his career, he was the Executive Director of Real Estate Development for the City of New York's Division of Real Property.


  • MY DIARY WRITTEN ON THE NIGHT OF 9/11
    by Rick Landman
    Asbestos

    The following is a synopsis of my experience living below Chambers Street written on September 11th 2001. Of course, we must first remember all those who lost loved ones and really suffered that day. My story is merely one of inconvenience.

    When I woke up on September 11th 2001, I remembered that I moved my 9:30 am meeting with the Port Authority on the 88th floor of One World Trade Center to Friday so that I could vote in the special primary election. I looked out the window and it was one of most beautiful of days of all times. The sky was a piercing royal blue without a cloud in the sky. The air was clean and crisp. As I got to the front door of my apartment I turned around and went back to the windows and opened them up all the way. Fresh air was a something that I used to love to bring in to my house.

    Then I went to the Surrogate's Courthouse on Chambers Street to vote and was at work at NYU by around 8:30 am. Then Larry came in to my office and said that his wife just called that a plane went over the campus so low that it almost hit Silver Towers.

    We ran up to the roof and as we opened the door we could see fire coming out of the northern side of the World Trade Center. I work in a 12 story building that has an unobstructed view to the south. The whole was shaped like a plane. Within a matter of minutes, others made their way up to the roof and we contemplated whether this was an accident. But how could it be? The sky was so clear and it was hard to pick that angle out of the 360 possible degrees.

    I then went downstairs to call my folks, but none of the phone lines would work. So I emailed my brother in California that I was okay and went back up to the roof. He was able to reach my folks.

    By the time I got back everyone was in agreement that it was an intentional attack and then we saw another plane coming up the Hudson. At first I joked that it was like the coffee commercial where everyone looks out one side of the plane as it tilts. Then I said that the pilot is probably saying, "and off to your right you can see the World Trade Center on fire". Bt then the plane started to turn right into the path of the other tower and we started to yell at the plane to go away. But it was too late and we all stood there in disbelief as the second plane just flew into the building right in front of our eyes. We could see the fire and explosion coming through the building northwards.

    People started to cry. I just made believe that this was not happening; it was just a bad movie. You could still see the shape of the first plane on the northern side of one building and fire shooting out of the other. My neighborhood was in flames.

    Then the talk turned to will the buildings stand? Will they have to be made shorter? How long will it be for them to fix them? No one thought that they would be falling down shortly.

    We began to see what we thought were parts of the building falling off. But upon closer inspection I could see that they were people jumping and not parts of the building at all. I saw enough and went back inside.

    We were then busy on what to do with the 1,500 NYU students living downtown near the site. But all along I was more nervous since I live within 1,000 feet from the World Trade Center. I could see the large smoke clouds moving to the east covering my entire block. I just put it out of my mind and set up a television set in my office and tried to get some work done. But a crisis mentality has settled in and people just started to leave and go home. Normal business ended. We were in a surreal environment. Then came word of the other crashes and fear that this may escalate into a war.

    Word trickeled down that the first building just came down and I went back to the roof. I couldn't believe what I saw and a large dust cloud now covered everything. You could see the people running up West Broadway and the dust following. You could start to smell the fires. I didn't want to see the next building go down so I returned to my office again. By this time, I was quite shaken. I tried to think about what I would do, and figured that I would sleep in the NYU gym with the students that night.

    As five o'clock rolled around, very few people were left. It was very quiet and the students were milling around the Washington Square Park . I walked over to the gym, decided to just pick up a blanket and pillow and return to sleep by myself on my office floor. At least my office was carpeted and I would have a bathroom to myself. I stopped by the supermarket and bought a yogurt and returned to my office all alone. I went up to the roof one more time just to watch building Number 7 collapse. At that point, I knew that my apartment house would have no electricity, since that was where our power came from.

    By darkness my office building was empty, but I had a little television, a computer with email access, a yogurt and a Camp Tarigo T shirt. So I used the T shirt as a pajama, put a sign on the door that I was sleeping there (I didn't know if the cleaning crew would come later that night and be scared by seeing me lying on the floor) and tried to go to sleep. I couldn't sleep. So I started writing emails all over the world of what happened. I fell asleep around 3 am and woke up at around 7 am.

    I got dressed in the same clothes, got on my bicycle and started to ride down Broadway towards my apartment house. I wanted just to see that it was still standing and to try to get my medicines. As I approached Duane Street, Broadway started to turn white and the sidestreets looked like it snowed. The fire escapes were full of papers and it looked like a big ticker tape parade had been held in a snow storm. The dust started flying in my face as I rode and then I saw about 12 army men pointing their rifles at me. It reminded me of the picture of the girl putting a daisy into a rifle barrel, but I just got off my bike and started walking slowly to the military men in camouflage suits.

    One started yelling at me that this area was under military control and that no one could go any further. I was standing at Broadway and Chambers Street and I pointed to my apartment house which is between Chambers and Warren Streets and asked if I go just go just 100 feet further and he said no.

    I spotted a NYC police officer with a white shirt and I started to cry. I told him that I lived right across the street and I needed my colitis medicine and that it takes a week or so to get it sent to me and that I guess I was now homeless. He said okay, "You have 5 minutes" and he told the army man with the rifle to go with me. I asked him if he would go upstairs with me since the front door of my building was wide open and there was no electricity or lights in the hallways. But he declined when he realized that he would have to walk up 8 flights of stairs in the dark. So I started up. It was like the Poseidon Adventure movie. Some people were coming down the stairs as I went up. No one really stopped to talk.

    I got to my door and opened it as I saw a beautiful winter wonderland scene. The dust sparkled in the light from the windows. White powder covered everything. I took one step inside and could see my footprint as I walked. I went to close the windows, I figured at least the dust would be able to settle a bit and went to get my medicines and empty the refrigerator of perishables, took a razor, vitamins and got some cash from my special hiding spot.

    As a child I used to play what to take with you if the Nazis came. This time I left my passport and went for my deodorant stick. I also took out my camera and went up to the roof of my building to see if anything landed on it and what the area looked like. I took pictures of the white sidestreets and strangely enough the roof deck was all clean and not a flower disturbed. I guess the dust cloud was lower than 12 stories high when it got to Warren Street. I looked towards the Trade Center and the perfectly blue sky was broken by a white cloud. But the white cloud wasn't hanging in the sky, it was coming up from the ground. It was where the building once stood.

    I carried my stuff downstairs and brought my perishables back to work to throw out north of Houston Street where I figured that a garbage truck would be able to get through. I was relieved to know that my house was still standing, but unsure of how many of my neighbors were still alive. It was then that the magnitude of the situation began to settle in.

    I am not sure anymore if it was on the 11th or 12th, but I noticed a young boy from my apartment house walking alone near the gym. I asked where he was staying, and how his parents were. He had gotten separated and had no place to go. As we talked he saw a friend from his tennis group go by who lived in NYU housing. I matched them together and asked their parents to take him in and emailed the building management in case his parents contacted them. There were many little situations like that in the first few days.

    By the second night I think I had spoken to my parents and I bought another yogurt and a can of tuna fish and had dinner and went to sleep. I stayed in my office until Rosh Hashanah when I went out to visit my folks for the holidays. Then I stayed in a bad hotel and then a nice one for a few weeks, until I started going home to clean up my place for a few hours every day until I felt safe to try to sleep there. By October I moved back in and by January I had all my utilities back on. I remember it was January 4, 2002 that my phone worked again.

    We had no mail for months and had to go up to 34th Street and wait on line if we wanted mail. To this day, my post office is still closed. But we get mail on a regular basis… unfortunately. For months I had no bills or junk mail to schlep to my apartment.

    By December the fires were out and I no longer cared which way the wind blowed. The burning odor was gone. Then we had months of wet streets and dust and noise and barricades. I felt like I lived in a gated community, since only people with ID's living in the area could get that close to the pit. I was in a hot spot of a frozen zone with Police as doormen. The name of the area was changing everyday. From the World Trade Center to ground zero, to the pile to the pit etc. Now it will a big construction site for the next 10 years.

    When Century 21 reopened, when the subways reopened, and when I got my mail; I began getting a sense of normalcy. Then the tourists came by droves past my house. Some days it was hard to get my bike out of my house across the crowded sidewalks. It looked like Disneyland North.

    My neighborhood took on a new importance in world history and everyone wanted to come and say that they were there. I just wanted to go home and figure out how to get my shopping done now that my main "mall" was destroyed.

    My neighborhood used the World Trade Center as our local strip mall. I bought my homeowner's insurance there, my clothes and eye glasses. Borders, my local bookstore was only 4 short blocks from my house. All those people were gone, but I learned that most survived. I only know of a few people who died at the World Trade Center that day. So all and all I was quite fortunate.


    I wrote the following article for a planning group newsletter in 2001; it reflects my experiences after September 11, 2001

    MY RETURN HOME TO NEAR "GROUND ZERO"

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    Thanks to the new jargon of the day, I now live in a "hot spot" within a "frozen zone". For the past 21 years I have been an "urban pioneer" living near the World Trade Center (about 5 blocks to the northeast) and enjoying the quiet nights and being near the heart of old New York. Of course, my inconveniences are nothing when compared to those who have lost their loved ones, apartments, jobs, or the injured, but this article is to let the GALIP readers know what's happening to the residents near "Ground Zero".

    First, you still need identification to prove that you live south of Chambers Street to be able to get through the various checkpoints. This means that friends, taxis, cars, and deliveries are excluded. But at least most residents are being allowed to return home. Temporary utility lines have been installed to give most residents power. The electric lines (and phone lines) were placed over the sidewalk and then hidden under wooden slabs. There are now thousands of tourists walking over these conduits without even noticing it.

    Just as the United States has reconsidered it's stance and now appreciates New York City and even considers it part of America, I think that I am re-evaluating the need for tourists. Seeing those red double-decker tourist buses empty did send a chill down my back. Going to bars with only local faces can also be a bumber. Now I only wish that the "gawker tourists" who are coming down to see the destruction will take the effort to enter a small store and buy something. The crowds on the sidewalk are so great that those stores that are open are still losing income. The stores that have been closed for a month without insurance may not be re-opening. This will be a problem that landlords and shopkeepers will have to negotiate. What do you do when the government places you in a frozen zone where no one can come to see you?

    Even after three weeks, when the winds change you still get a strong smell of burning rubber. The streets are being kept wet to keep the dust from rising. But the air outside is still cleaner than in my apartment. I still keep fans and air purifiers running. At night, ground zero glows like a movie set with bright white lights and a foggy mist, as heavy construction equipment goes up and down the streets.

    Except for the subways (and Path) that will be out of service for probably a year, the rest of the neighborhood outside of the "hot spot" is coming back to life. We now have mail delivery, and phone service has returned to some people on my block. I will have to get cable television after living here for 21 years. The TV stations used to be broadcast from the World Trade Center so I used to have wonderful reception.

    The problem areas will be Battery Park City (that has become an isolated community), the local economy, and overall morale. I predict that by Christmas my neighborhood will be back (except for Battery Park City) to where it was a few years ago with one big exception. There will be a large construction project going on day and night on the west side. Crowds will return and if the merchants can hold on, things will be okay by next year.

    I'd like to invite all of the NYC area GALIP members to my apartment in January 2002 for a Downtown Manhattan Rebirth Party so that we can get to know each other better as GALIP members and can see for yourself how NYC is coming back. I hope by then that the frozen zone will melt and I won't be in a hot spot so people can come south of Chambers Street to visit.


    "WHAT MOSQUE AT "GROUND ZERO"?
    August 27, 2010

    Currently the most frequently asked question that I get from living in Lower Manhattan is, "How do you feel about the Mosque at Ground Zero?"


    Well, actually it isn't just a Mosque and it isn't at "Ground Zero". This is the answer from someone who lives on Warren Street (4 blocks north of "Ground Zero" and two blocks north of Park Place) for over 30 years, and someone who was the Chair of the Landmarks Committee, the Tribeca Committee and the Planning Committee of Community Board #1; and who is a land use law attorney and professor.

    This is just my opinion, but I remember at so many Community Board meetings that there are families of 9/11 victims with diverse views and political perspectives. Some families wanted the entire "Ground Zero" site to be a cemetery, while others wanted the original two Towers to be rebuilt. Just as the victims had various views, so do the families. Some are in favor of the Muslim Cultural Center with a Mosque.

    But I want to comment from the perspective of being a gay Jewish son of two Holocaust Survivors. As a result, I am so proud that America is not a country based on religious hatred or demagoguery. Unlike many religious theocracies in the Middle East, America has a Constitution where the New York founding fathers demanded that the First Amendment include the Freedom of Religion. That right goes back in New York history to the early New Amsterdam period. If we coerce people not to exercise their religious rights, then how are we different from the "terrorists"?

    I am also frightened by the use of a broad brush to paint all American Muslims with the same stroke. That is precisely what the Minister of Propaganda did during the Nazi era to all Jews. The fact that most German Jews were either assimilated or productive Germans was thrown away, and a twisted negative stereotype of the ultra-Orthodox Eastern European Jew was pushed into the minds of the general public. It was wrong to view all German Jews that way, and it is wrong to view all American Muslims as terrorists. This is being used by political forces for exciting their base.

    It was wrong when a similar group of screaming demagogues pushed America into sending the Japanese Americans (and some American Germans and American Italians) into relocation camps during World War II; using similar fears and broad brush tactics. It was wrong when we did the same during the McCarthy era or the Salem Witch Hunts. We must be strong to the true American values and stop this escalating hatred. A Muslim Community Center dedicated to peace which will be a few blocks from the former Towers site, is not the same thing as when mosques where built on top of Churches... or for that matter when Churches were built on top of synagogues.

    Unlike the posters showing this huge building (the same size on the poster as the 100 story former World Trade Center) this 13 story building will only have two stories or 15% for a Muslim pray space. It is a community center and believe me, the people of Lower Manhattan can use more community space. It will have a swimming pool, and classrooms, and performance areas etc. I would not be surprised if other faiths are also holding or co-sponsoring programs in the future.

    If you walk around the area of Park Place, where the Park 51 Cultural Center is planned, you will see that it is not really part of Tribeca or the area on "Ground Zero". It is in a desolate part of the neighborhood. Sym's started there but left for the exposure of the wider street down on Trinity Place and the Burlington Coat Factory never re-opened. The location is out of the way and not at all visible from "Ground Zero". It is a good location for a cultural center to promote peace and understanding between Muslim faith and America.

    Another thing that most Americans do not know is that this Masjid Mosque has been in Lower Manhattan since the opening of the World Trade Center. (This may not be the same congregation as the Park Place51 group.) Like some synagogues built for observant Jews to pray, this Mosque was not for residents but for workers in the area. The Mosque was at 12 Warren Street for decades and I live one building over since 1979. There was another Mosque on West Broadway that no one realized was there. Even the restaurant next door didn't realize it was a Mosque when it applied for a liquor license.

    The real irony is that the prayer space of the "Mosque" is now operating. The congregation moved from Warren Street to the Park Place building. The fight is now over having a community center with a swimming pool, basketball court, performing arts center and classrooms two blocks from the World Trade Center. The polls are so rigged. If someone would ask me are you in favor of a theoretical non-controversial siting over a controversial siting I would also agree. But no other available site in the area has been found for their project. New Yorkers understand how hard it is to find real estate locations, but those who live where land is cheap and abundant may not realize how hard it is.

    So I suggest that we lower the demagoguery and intensity of the debate. We should not broad brush all Muslims by comparing them to the religious and violent fringe. We need to reach out to moderate Muslims and Christians and Jews who believe in freedom and democracy and equality; and together fight the extremists who want to either use violence or force their views on all of us.

    why there This is an advertisement that was running on buses and subways. But notice the scale of the building. The World Trade Center was over 100 stories tall. The new Muslim Center is 13 stories tall; but the ad makes the Muslim Center appear huge. They also added a Crescent and Star to the building, as pure fantasy. It is not on the architectural rendering.
    mosque renderingThe architectural rendering of the 13 stories Muslim Center.
    Notice that there is no star and half moon on the facade as the Bus Ad depicts.
    mosque mapThis map shows the location of the World Trade Center site (Ground Zero where the Towers were actually towards the southern side of the site.) and the site for the proposed Muslim Center on Park Place. I have added where the Masjid Mosque was located for the past few decades. It opened around the same time as the World Trade Center at 12 Warren Street. I lived one building over from it for decades and never even realized it was there. Note: This may not be the same congregation that is planning on using the Park Place 51 space.
    mosque 12 WarrenThis is a photo of where the Masjid Mosque was located on the second floor. All that I remember was a paper sign that said Masjid.
    mosque Park PlaceThis is the former site of the Sym's Clothing Store and then the Burlington Coat Factory. Now it may be demolished to build the Muslim Center.
    mosque 20 WarrenThis is the temporary site on my block where they are praying now.
    mosque west broadwayThis is another mosque in Tribeca.

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